Conspiracy theorists, unite! Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica Episode 4.

Recently the aniblogosphere’s been going gaga over SHAFT’s latest offering, the dubious Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica, thought by some bloggers to be more deep than it looks, with references to Faustian motifs and various other pieces of literature hidden amongst its scenes. And of course, with any show with unseen mysteries that compel the audience, theories start spreading like wildfire. Here’s some of my own.

Why? For one, Madoka seems to be the most concerned over her demise, after Homura tells her what happens to Puella Magi who die in the other world, considered missing forever by the police. Seeing as how she’s as scared as fuck about Puella Magi at the moment , Mami’s revival seems unlikely. Secondly, it seems set for Homura to become Madoka’s ‘mentor’ figure, so to speak. While it was previously Mami, Homura gives Madoka lots of advice and helps her relieve some of her depression over Mami’s death. For crying out loud, the OP and ED themes’ covers are both pictures of Madoka with Homura.

I know what you’re saying , ‘They’re probably trolling us!’ Well, who knows if that’s true or not. Right now I can’t see any other reason for Madoka to become a Mahou Shoujo, unless..

  • ….Sayaka is a fool and her contract signing will eventually lead to one or two deaths, possibly her own.

Hot-headed, impulsive, careless yet caring, Sayaka is your cliche school girl friend. Despite what happened to Mami , she seems to feel no fear anyway, joining the group and defeating the witch before Madoka dies. Although she might have saved her now, her ignorance and anger towards Homura could let her end up just like Mami, who similarly ignored her advice.

Her death, or deaths caused by her, could also spur Madoka to become a Puella Magi in an attempt to correct the wrongs. Worse still, they could be forced to fight another over Grief Seeds and conflicting interest.

….and now for the most repeated theory of all:

  • Kyubey is the devil incarnate

“Oh come on, eeeeeeeveryone says that- “

They don’t describe exactly how he is the devil incarnate, do they? They just go about saying on and on how he’s evil without any examples. Let’s just use Episode 4 as a platform.

Kyubey taunts and subtly pressures Sayaka and Madoka into becoming Puella Magi on the rooftop, making comments which might have gave Sayaka the notion of trying to becomg a Puella Magi. (“Only Puella Magi” this, “Only Puella Magi” that, making it sound like some sort of exclusive club.) While Madoka is still afraid, Sayaka becomes a Puella Magi for Kyousuke, and it just so happens that while Sayaka was at the hospital and Kyousuke bursts into rage over his permanent inability to play music, Kyuubey is right there, staring at them. At the last scene, you can see it talking to Kyoko, telling her about Sayaka taking over her area and edging her on to fight. No objections.

It raises a lot of questions. Aside from the age-old question “What in blue blazes is Kyubey?” , you must really consider his motives. He seems as though he wants more and more people to become Puella Magi while knowing at the same time that there isn’t space for more and that they fight with each other unnecessarily  – could he be wanting Puella Magi to die? Next episode Kyoko is even going to fight Sayaka for the area, and I doubt it’ll end pretty. Kyubey might have even caused Kyousuke’s accident on purpose to make her resolve to become a Puella Magi. Remember that twist in Bleach where it turns out Aizen knew Ichigo from the very start? Same idea here – Kyubey’s had his eyes on Sayaka a long time ago. Explains why Homura wants to kill him – possibly because she had found out his secret.

All of which leads to a scarier theory : Kyubey creates all the motivation for them to become Puella Magi. Kyubey can grant any wish. He probably has immense magical powers as well. Let’s say I’m Kyubey. (gasp.) What if I wanted Madoka to become a Puella Magi, and thus I kill Mami right on the spot to make her wish Mami back…? What if I wanted Sayaka to become a Puella Magi , and cause a little ‘accident’? This puts a whole more scarier perspective on things – the girls don’t have any say in the matter, as everything was due to them.

And why? I doubt Kyubey’s some officer of a group of Mahou Shoujo somewhere. Personal gain, perhaps? This gain so much that he can completely lie about the consequences and butter it up regardless of knowing how many girls die, sign them on while baiting others to strike? What if all of these ‘Grief Seeds’ are far more sinister than they appear? Perhaps Kyuubey doesn’t even need them to grant wishes  – perhaps these Grief Seeds contain even more sinister materials, such as immense magic to power some doomsday contraption, or even the souls of dead Puella Magi? Or what if he just plain wants them to die? Does he gain something in the process? Or is he the puppet of an even greater being out there, using him for his/her own nefarious schemes?

Or are we bloggers all just over-scrutinizing this show?

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41 Responses to Conspiracy theorists, unite! Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica Episode 4.

  1. chikorita157 says:

    Nah, I think that too much speculation could ruin the joy of the show. Sure the story is good, but the uncertainty of the previews like Sora no Woto. Just enjoy the show and don’t worry about it too much.

  2. Azure Hoshizora says:

    ( ◕ ω ◕ )( ◕ ω ◕ )( ◕ ω ◕ )

    Mami will be revived later (since I’m in denial over her death)
    I’m suspecting Sayaka might actually turn into a witch…
    … cuz Kamijou being cured IS A LIE…
    cuz of the theory everyone knows: ( ◕ ω ◕ ) is evil.
    & the creation of magical girls create witches at the same time (cuz of the colour scheme in the witches’ lair)
    Not to mention, at this rate, Madoka may never become a magical girl until the final few episodes…

    We’re certainly all over scrutinizing this show.
    But speculating is what makes shows like Star Driver and Madoka so fun~ ( ◕ ω ◕ )

    • Valence says:

      Denial shall bring you nowhere! And I doubt her revival’s gonna be pretty anyway. Everything seems like a lie in this show.

      And I like your theory on the creation of Mahou Shoujo = creation of witches theory. It’s beautiful, and if it’s true, brilliant.

      • Azure Hoshizora says:

        & I seem to keep falling for the lies… orz

        It actually fits, doesn’t it? Except Kyubey may not be evil if its true. May not, he still probably is…

        • Valence says:

          I can’t see any other explanation for Kyubey’s actions other than that he is evil. Don’t tell me he’s forced to do so or something, that’d be lame.

          • Azure Hoshizora says:

            That IS lame, but it’d be unexpected since everyone thought it wouldn’t be possible (since its too lame) then WHAM, Shaft trolls us.

            I offer another theory, Kyubey is god. Magical girls and witches are his chess pieces, the fights and wish granting are for his amusement. Which explains his default expression, he’s really having fun.

            • Valence says:

              I like to think that Kyubey’s wearing a mask, or unable to speak. It makes it seem more cool.

              …What if SHAFT counter-trolls us by having the series turn out to be one of those ‘happy healing anime’ after all? God.

              • Azure Hoshizora says:

                he’s forced to have that expression, then he can unzip himself like chuck from panty stocking? come to think of it, kyubey has ears inside his ears…

                *applies reverse reverse psychology* So Shaft wants us to think that kyubey is monster to which we would assume that Shaft MUST be lying so kyubey is the victim which makes things depressing but that must be what shaft wants us to think so this is really a happy mahou shoujo anime but shaft is really planning to reverse reverse troll us by making this show shit.


                • Valence says:


                  Maybe it’s a counter-counter troll to make us suspect it’s a counter troll when it’s actually a plain troll to begin with.


  3. Ex14 says:

    haven’t watched the latest ep, but did the OP change?

    Most shows put their stories on their OP…so unless they removed mami, I’ll probably never accept that Mami is Dead <- in denial

  4. baka~ says:

    I believe Homura verified that people who die on “that side” stays and dead vanishes from the real world.

    That aside, I believe Kyubey’s appearance to offer Sayaka a “quick way out” isn’t coincidental. Of course, there’s no proof as of yet that he must’ve been the one that have been causing those accidents, forcing girls to become Puella Magi but how he involves himself during certain scenarios makes him suspicious enough… That aside, Urubochi mentions that people should never suspect Kyubey since he’s Kyu (for cute) but since Urubochi admitted that he “lied” with turning in a new leaf and making a Mahou Shoujo genre, we can safely assume that he’s lying about Kyubey being “cute” XD

    • Valence says:

      True, but what if she revives back via a wish? That’s what some people are hoping for, but I’m not one of them.

      I think Kyubey can teleport. He seems to appear everywhere in difficult to reach places at the right times, all the time. This is why I think he’s actually the cause of all the trouble here.

  5. ~xxx says:

    I do believe that Kyubey is cooking his plans for the ultimate offering…
    Much to my theories, The face at the ending credit may help.

    Hopefully, I can Theorize the rule of fools die early.

    • Valence says:

      Fools always die early, but people don’t like deaths, huh.

      I hope it turns out Kyubey is the cause of everything though.

      • ~xxx says:

        Like motivation through Despair I sense…

        It is the work of a bad entity.

        • Valence says:

          which is essentially the core of Faustian themes. Faustian themes deal with the concept of the proverbial ‘deal with the devil’, so to speak, where one gains something he/she desires at the cost of something terrible, usually unbeknownst to the person. In this case they all make contracts but are oblivious to the dangers and hazards making a contract entails. For instance, Mami lectures Madoka on the dangers of becoming a Puella Magi before – being the ultimate mentor, dying the same way she warned Madoka about.

  6. Sebz says:

    Kyubei is the freakiest mahou shoujo assistant I’ve ever come across. xDDD

  7. Nopy says:

    I totally agree with you, Kyubey is the devil incarnate, and Sayaka is a fool. I’m actually surprised at how much this anime has got me riled up. I usually watch mahou shoujo series for their action scenes and spells, not for their plot.

    My take on Kyubey’s purpose is that he probably gains more magical powers when the girls fight witches and each other (and die).

    • Valence says:

      But what’s the point of more magical powers if it can already grant any wish? I suspect that alone requires great magical ability, but he needs Grief Seeds (supposedly.) The ability to grant wishes without Grief Seeds, perhaps? That’d be catastrophic. With that one could rule the world.

      This is actually the first mahou shoujo show I’ve watched that managed to keep me interested. I’m still stuck on Moetan episode 1.

      • Son Gohan says:

        Kyubei may be like a genie. He may grant any wish but he may not use his power for himself.
        I think that he is always on the lookout for girls in dire needs who are willing to become Puella Magi. However I don’t think he is actively causing the accidents. It doesn’t make sense for him to kill Mami because Madoka was actually willing to sign the contract BEFORE Mami’s death.

        • Valence says:

          True, Madoka was considering what to wish for, but perhaps Kyubey didn’t know this, and Mami’s death was a surefire way to make sure she wishes for her revival, or signs on in her honour.

          I doubt Kyubey is a good guy anyways.

  8. Abscissa says:

    Aside from Kyubey being the management, I’m still intrigue why Homura is a mahou shoujo not just in reality but even in Madoka’s dream.

    • Valence says:

      Which is why her dream could be foreshadowing for the end – split between Homura and a fate less dire. Or something like that, Homura looks set to stay.

  9. Duqs says:

    ^◕ ω ◕ ^ ~hurry up and make your wish

    This little rascal is evil because
    a.) He appears too conveniently. Case in point, Mami and Sayaka.
    b.) Homerun-chan wants him dead, and homerun doesn’t look like a bad guy of sorts. In fact based from her facial reactions from episode one (with all that mouth gritting) it seems that she knows Madoka from a distant past (take note of hitomi’s discussion with madoka and sayaka inside the cafe about previous meetings)
    c.) He is is evil because he has ears growing out of his ears.

    speculah~ anyone?

    • Valence says:

      Darn it, you beat me to point C. I was going to post that tomorrow.

      The little rascal appears conveniently everywhere despite being so small. Methinks he can teleport to any girl in distress and then attempt to make them contracts, harbouring evil intentions, after which Homerun-chan caught on and thus wanted to kill him. Perhaps.

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